Bermuda Lawn Dominators
The Bermuda Lawn Dominators Podcast is your go-to resource for DIY lawn care enthusiasts looking to transform their lawns. Join hosts Skip Wheeler and Jason Crain as they provide practical tips, personal insights, and engaging discussions to help you dominate your lawn game. With a supportive community and a touch of fun with the "Lawn Beer of the Week" segment, this podcast is your ticket to achieving the lawn of your dreams and have fun on the journey. Let's get greener together!
Bermuda Lawn Dominators
The Lawn Chronicles: Mastering Weed Control
Curious about the secrets to maintaining a pristine lawn? Buckle up as we guarantee you an insightful journey that will transform your approach to weed control. We'll reveal two key methods - pre-emergent and post-emergent strategies - and how to effectively apply them to keep weeds at bay. And as we crunch the turf under our boots, we'll indulge in our Lawn Beer of the Week, Land Shark Lager, discussing it's refreshing connection to lawn care.
Navigating the tools available for lawn care, we introduce an iPhone app that can identify weeds and take you through the ins and outs of 2-4-D, the first herbicide. In a fascinating tale, we explore how to recognize and deal with Dallis grass. Fasten your seatbelts as we delve into the benefits of fertilizing and mowing, discuss a PGR's role in enhancing your grass's thickness, and reveal techniques to control weeds in summer, including manual weed pulling and spot spraying.
As we wrap up our journey, we emphasize the value of regular mowing, watering, fertilizing, and feeding. We also discuss the importance of having a variety of herbicides at hand and how the BLD Facebook group can help you identify weeds. Welcome to our fun-filled, educational quest to achieve that perfect, weed-free lawn you've always wanted. Don't miss out!
Welcome to the Bermuda Lawn Dominators podcast, the one stop destination for all things lawn care, where we unlock the secrets to achieving a pristine and envy inducing lawn. I'm Jason Crain and I'm here with Skip Wheeler. We're not experts, just passionate about lawns.
Speaker 2:Bermuda lawn dominators get the grass. You need all four tenants low water fertilizing weed. You're go to the stop just to help your lawn. You'll be proud to walk outside to see the change that's undergone. Bermuda lawn dominators, let's go greener together.
Speaker 3:In this episode, we'll explore the fascinating world of weed control, uncovering the secrets to maintaining a weed-free lawn. Whether you're a seasoned lawn care enthusiast or just beginning your green thumb journey, this episode promises to deliver valuable insights and actual tips that will transform your lawn into a masterpiece. But first let's quench our thirst with the Lawn Beer of the Week.
Speaker 4:Welcome to the Lawn Beer of the Week, where we motivate your lawn care with a side of hoppy happiness. Join us as we sip on refreshing brews that pair perfectly with tending to your lawn. Get ready to enjoy some grassy goodness and raise a glass to a lawn well done.
Speaker 3:Looks like you brought us some Land Shark.
Speaker 1:Yes, so this week's beer is a Land Shark Lager, so this is made by Margaritaville. Actually, this is a. Jimmy Buffett beer. Yeah, it's gotta be good then Right, exactly, it's actually brewed in St Louis Missouri, but it's by the Margaritaville franchise and it's a lager. It's your basic beer. It's kind of light To me. I think you're gonna like this one, because to me the first little bit of it tastes a little like Corona. Oh and then it's kind of light after that.
Speaker 3:So, oh, I should like it. Yeah, that's my go to beer is a Corona, I prefer that. So yeah if we're out drinking somewhere. So okay, and it's made in St Louis.
Speaker 1:Missouri. Oh yeah, you said that. So we have bottles this time, so we don't get to hear the pop. It kind of looks like a Corona in the bottle too, don't you think? Yeah, it does. It comes in a clear bottle like Corona. It's kind of the same color.
Speaker 3:I think it's a little funny that it says it's an island style lager made in.
Speaker 1:St Louis? Yeah, in the Landlock State.
Speaker 3:Right, oh, I absolutely love that.
Speaker 1:That is perfect. Yes, all right.
Speaker 3:I think I've had this once before, but it's been a long time since I've tried it. Yeah, absolutely Like it's light, it does have that kind of Corona taste, so it would be great, especially right now with the 100 degree weather, sitting out just watching the grass grow yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:After it's all been mowed and taken care of. Yeah, I really like this. That was a good pick, Thank you. So what do we got?
Speaker 1:this week. So this week we're going to talk about weed control. All right, so this is the fourth of the four tenants that we've been talking about.
Speaker 3:Yep, so mow water, fertilize and weed, yes, so this is the fourth one.
Speaker 1:So with weed control there's really I put it into two categories there's pre-emergent and post-emergent.
Speaker 3:Yes, no, really. Weed control starts with preventing them, right.
Speaker 1:Right. So that's what the pre-emergent is for is to prevent the weeds from coming. So when do you apply pre-emergent?
Speaker 3:Once a quarter four times a year.
Speaker 3:So I try to do it every three months. I maybe go a little long sometimes between those. Then I also don't apply the same pre-emergent all the time. I try to alternate between two different ones. I use pro-diamine and diaphylip here, and I try to alternate because there are some limits to how much of these you can put on your lawn annually. So you need to make sure that you know the laws and rules in your area, because you either need to make sure you're not putting on too much by doing it too many times, or reduce the amount each time so that you're not meeting those thresholds.
Speaker 1:So are the thresholds set by like the EPA, or is this?
Speaker 3:something Either by the state, by the state. Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it doesn't. If you put too much on your lawn, could you jeopardize your lawn, could you cause any damage that way?
Speaker 3:You know, I don't know. I'm sure you could, I'm sure you probably could cause some damage, but I don't know, maybe not. I mean anything in excess could be bad right.
Speaker 1:Right, even water Right.
Speaker 3:Even water? Sure, absolutely, so I just stick to the label directions and then. I swap it up every other time I use the opposite pre-emergent and I've had good luck with both of them, I think. To be honest, I think the Prodiamine does a little bit better for me here, but I still swap it up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's. I've been doing the same thing with Prodiamine twice a year. So let's talk a little bit about the two. So you said you used Prodiamine and what was the other?
Speaker 3:Diapier. So I get them both off of do my own, and you can get them on Amazon and other places too, and the problem is is a lot of people have small yards and they're sold in large quantities, so it might be easier and it's expensive for as much as you get. The last one I got I don't remember how much I spent for it, but it was about a gallon size jug and it lasted me probably five years and I have an acre here.
Speaker 2:It lasted for a long time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, maybe longer, maybe it was longer than that, but it lasted for a very long time.
Speaker 1:So you can either, you know, buy it in bulk and use it for several years, or go in halves with your neighbor or something, and split it up. What do you know? The brands that you use for the Prodiamine and the Dimension are? Do we have I know dimension? I mean not dimension. Dimension is the thigh up here is dimension.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the one that I use for two of my applications is the dimension.
Speaker 3:And you do them both twice a year each.
Speaker 1:Yeah, twice a year each, and I actually I got that from you.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm just making this up as I go.
Speaker 1:I, really I'm thinking.
Speaker 2:I think we all are. Yeah, we all are.
Speaker 3:I just watch as many videos as I can. I read the long forums that I'm in. I try to get a good an understanding of what I need to do.
Speaker 1:Well, whenever you're out there looking, you know whatever the brand is you can look and see what the active ingredient is and see for diamine or something else.
Speaker 3:Well, the brand that I'm using is Quali Pro. Yes, that's the same one I used to and I got that off of.
Speaker 1:Do my own Okay.
Speaker 3:And the di-thigh up here is not Quali Pro, yeah I used dimension, the thigh up here.
Speaker 1:And I didn't even know that was the active ingredient until I was looking at.
Speaker 3:That may be what I have as well.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure. Yeah, and I think I bought both of mine off of Amazon.
Speaker 3:I know right now that the pro-diamine I just looked at it online and it's 110 on do my own.
Speaker 1:So do you use granular or liquid?
Speaker 3:I use the WDG granular on both the water disposal granulars.
Speaker 3:And so I mix that into my sprayer my behind sprayer on the mower and put it in that way, I also sometimes will throw other stuff in there too. When I'm doing that, and it's perfectly okay to do that. For most things you double check the labels, but if I'm having a weed problem, maybe throw some 2,4D or something in there with that. Or if I'm wanting to green up the lawn at the same time, just to save myself some trouble, I'll throw some iron in there?
Speaker 4:Yeah, some iron in there. Yeah, liquid iron, but you can mix other stuff with it.
Speaker 3:Those two things anyway, I've mixed with it. I don't know what else. There's other stuff, the Quinclorac too.
Speaker 1:Oh yes.
Speaker 3:I know I've mixed that with it as well, and that's a crabgrass killer.
Speaker 1:So whenever we use the pre-emergent to keep the weeds from whenever coming up right. So the pre-emergent's working on the roots of those weeds. You have to get the pre-emergent down before you're seeing the weeds come up or it won't do you any good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and there have been times where I skip. Quite frankly, when it's cold outside I don't feel like getting out there and putting down a pre-emergent. I should, but I don't. So January I end up skipping. Then come March I end up paying for it. My goal this January is to make sure I get it down. Those winter weeds start coming up, or the early spring weeds start coming up, and then I'm just fighting them. So if you can get them before they come out with a good pre-emergent, save yourself a lot of trouble.
Speaker 1:You can really tell too who has used pre-emergent whenever the grass is dormant in the winter, because if they have a bunch, of green weeds in there. You know that they didn't do their application of pre-emergent at all.
Speaker 3:Or you can tell where you missed, or you can tell, yeah, exactly where you missed, which I've done that multiple times I've missed. I've got it down pretty good. Now I'm pretty good about full coverage. I just got to get that January application down. I got to quit skipping that.
Speaker 1:So I mentioned it in, I think, the first episode of the podcast that I skipped an application this last year, knowing that I wasn't going to be living in that house in Pogger, and I could not believe the difference.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it makes a huge difference. It will get your weeds about 90% plus under control Absolutely. I still have some stuff that pops through, though, so what do you do in that?
Speaker 1:So yeah, so that's where we get into the post-emergent. Right, you've put down your pre-emergent, you got 90% of the weeds gone, but now you're looking at your yard and you're seeing weeds pop up, so you have to look at something that will kill those weeds without killing your grass. On the different types of post-emergent, do you use different types, different brands, different ingredients for different weeds?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I mix them together too, so I get a couple spots of nut sedge here every year I get the same nut sedge patch every single year.
Speaker 3:So I'll mix sedge hammer in with some 2-4-D, and 2-4-D is a broadleaf killer. So if I'm having problems with some broadleaf weeds, I'll mix those two in a sprayer and I'll spray around the yard, and I also like to. I mean a good trick, especially if you got a lot of weeds popping up, is to throw a little bit of lawn ink. What do you call that lawn?
Speaker 1:ink, I can think of what it's called yeah, some kind of dye. Yeah, the dye, that's the word I'm looking for.
Speaker 3:So throw some dye in there too, because I will end up spraying the same weeds six times.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, and then mist three others. Right, mist three others absolutely so.
Speaker 3:I put the dye in there. I throw in whatever weeds I'm having an issue with in the lawn, which sometimes it's clover, sometimes it's nut sedge. Right now I've got a little bit of nut sedge, but whatever my targeted stuff is, I just put that in a little hand sprayer, walk around and spray it and spray spot, spray.
Speaker 1:Do you ever do any kind of broadcast across the whole yard?
Speaker 3:I have.
Speaker 1:For post-emergent.
Speaker 3:Yes, I have on occasion. My very back section is kind of a green space back there, right, I had taken that from cactus and weeds to trying to get it under control. So I put some quinchlorate, because there's a lot of crabgrass and stuff back there. I put a cup with some 2-4-D there's a lot of broadleaf weed back there as well. I mix those together and just do the mass spray across the yard. But no, normally for spot spraying I don't.
Speaker 1:So here's what I do.
Speaker 3:I have three that.
Speaker 1:I've been using ever since I started doing my own yard.
Speaker 3:What are?
Speaker 1:they and I use the quinchloric for the crabgrass. I have sedge hammer for the nutedge and I'm in the 2-4-D for all the broadleaf.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, and that probably covers about 99% of the weeds that you get around here anyway, Probably most yards across the country. I would think that would cover most of them.
Speaker 1:There may be some cooler weather places that we're missing, Right yeah, and I think you can keep it simple like that and just you don't have to go do tons of research. I remember one of the first questions I asked on the Facebook page was about a weed.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And someone just said get some 2-4-D, It'll kill most of everything. And any of the other broadleaf weeds you have.
Speaker 3:Well mentioning talking about 2-4-D. I was doing a little research today about our topic and I came across an article. 2-4-d was the first herbicide. What is it targeted herbicide? It was made in the 1940s, and so I found it very interesting the guy that invented it. His kids were very susceptible to poison ivy. So, he was trying to invent something that would work against that. Oh Then, the natural thing that he invented was a little too unstable, so he invented this synthetic version, and that's where we got the 2-4-D and it was the very first targeted herbicide and so it's used a lot in farming.
Speaker 3:You know it can be sprayed on wheat I know wheat was one of them, I don't remember the other crops so they talked about being able to spray it on that and it doesn't affect those other things. So I thought it was pretty neat yeah that is neat. There's a little controversy around whether there's carcinogen effects or anything. There's a lot of research, both directions, as you try.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just about anything with a chemical nowadays is yeah.
Speaker 3:There's that concern sometimes the state of California is the only place that it's a problem right, I see that a lot of things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's known by the state of California to cause this problem, but nobody else seems that right, exactly so With your, with your, I guess most of the post-emergent that you're using, then is liquid, because your spot spraying, right, yeah, yeah, it's liquid, or it can be dissolved in the water right. So do you ever use like the weed and feed type things? Never those scots, never and feed. There was a time in my life where I did yeah, but I don't use it now.
Speaker 3:But that's not to say they're not useful. There's definitely there's a, there's granular with the pre-emergent in there right, yeah and that would be very useful, especially if you have a broadcast sprayer and not a broadcast Spreader and not a liquid sprayer. It might be easier, especially if you have a smaller lawn. There's no reason to get all this different equipment.
Speaker 1:If you already have a broadcast Spreader, then I would use the granular yeah, I've used the granular a lot and I've used the weed and feed in the past, to not really knowing what I was doing at that time, you know. I just knew I had a lot of weeds and the grass was starting to grow, and so I just took it out there and use the weed and feed and it seemed to work pretty well.
Speaker 3:A lot of this is just getting out and trying, right, right, getting out and doing, and you're gonna mess up sometimes. So or maybe not even mess up, but maybe you find that certain things work better for you than other things. He's just a trial and error over time. But let's take the mystery out of all this. It's not, it's not hard, it's just. It's a matter of consistency more than anything with the lawn. So if you're consistently Trying to control the weeds and you have two different avenues to control them, with a pre-emergent and post-emergent, then then you're gonna start seeing some results over time.
Speaker 1:That's the way, you know, it worked with me. You know it's just trying things and asking questions about it too.
Speaker 3:So well, and that's why the Facebook group is such a good resource. For that, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just about any type of weed that you can find in your yard. Someone has else has the same weed and is Looking for answers to well, that's a good point.
Speaker 3:How do you identify your weeds?
Speaker 1:Well, there's one, one, one good way that I do. I have an iPhone, and so if you take a picture of it with your iPhone, I think you know one of the most current I iOS Versions, right If you take a picture of it? There's actually a function there that helps you identify plants.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the little eye with the circle around it, right? Yeah, I didn't know if I the plants. How accurate has that been for you?
Speaker 1:It's. So far it's been pretty accurate. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I've Used it. So in the my my current lawn that was just sorted, so there is some Area that they hadn't sorted yet. No one out there and there was a grass growing and it looked like common Bermuda to me, so I just took a picture of it real quick and would it come back and say common Bermuda.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah. So what did you do? Just pull it by hand. Just pulled it by hand, yeah, and you're growing Bermuda. You can't get rid of Bermuda, right, right, exactly, yeah, so yeah, and so I've used it on other things too.
Speaker 1:You know the crabgrass Different ones it, I don't know that's ever steered me wrong. It's. Sometimes it gives you, you know, multiple options of what it could be too.
Speaker 3:Let's just that's helpful as well, I mean at least it's not leaving you completely hanging right, not coming back like I would say it's, I don't know no idea what that is. I've had good luck with that app, or doing it that way too, with the phone. Now, the only thing I've struggled with on that that I can recall right now is the Dallas grass. Oh yeah, it identified it as crabgrass, which I guess it is a version of crabgrass, or something I don't it did not come back and say Dallas grass, though.
Speaker 3:Okay but I put the crabgrass killer on it, the quenchloric Mm-hmm, and nothing happened right right. I think that's how you identify Dallas grass right. You put crabgrass killer on it. Nothing happens.
Speaker 1:It's Dallas grass right. At least that's been my experience. Yeah, so I know that a lot of people have Dallas grass yes issues, so Is there anything that you have found to work on that?
Speaker 3:there is a two-week window in the In the spring, and I guess is I don't know about the fall I think it's mostly in the spring where the Dallas grass is coming to life before everything else. So what I've done is I've been very, very careful and sprayed it with glyphosate. Okay, round up right, I just found it, yeah, but you got to be careful. I mean, if the lawn is coming back to life, you got to be very, very careful. But that is how I got rid of Most of it. I still have some.
Speaker 3:I mean, I still fighting it, I'm still trying to get rid of it, but for the most part I've gotten rid of most of it back there and it's just in my backyard where I've got it, and that's an area that it was not sauded or anything. It was um green space that I fenced in and then I just spread some for me to seed out there. You can tell the difference between my sauded area, but the first 50 feet past my house is sauded and then after that it's the stuff that I plant planted, so it looks a little different, but that's where the Dallas grass is up. I've gotten rid of all the other weeds in there except for the Dallas grass with the crap grass.
Speaker 1:We can use quinkloric, we've said nuts edge, we said hammer.
Speaker 3:So on, clover, clover seems to be a really Well, one of the things I do with clover is clover is usually an indication of low things low nitrogen.
Speaker 1:Is that right?
Speaker 3:Right, so I try to get the nitrogen up in that area. But as far as spraying, it does 42, 40 cover it.
Speaker 1:I've sprayed it with 2 4d and it covers it, covers it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I haven't had any in a while. I do have some right now. I just haven't sprayed it and haven't gone back to look to see what it is that kills it, and I guess 2, 4d it is, so I need to get some to 40. The problem right now, though, is it's a hundred degrees, yes, 100 plus I should say and we, the next 10 days show 100 plus.
Speaker 3:You don't want to spray that stuff when it's over 85 degrees. Some people have said you can spray it in the evening, spray it in the morning before it gets hot. But my experience when the weather is getting this hot it still ends up burning, at least the times I've done it. Maybe I do see just pray lighter, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's. That's. One thing that I was wanting to talk about is the temperature Considerations, because I found that too. You know that a lot of times, even on the label, it says do not spray if it's over 90 degrees. And the thing about spraying in the evening here, whenever it's over a hundred degrees, you know, for the high, it's midnight before it's getting below 90, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you gotta get up at two in the morning to spray your weeds.
Speaker 1:now you got to find them because it's dark, exactly so, so it really makes it difficult.
Speaker 3:So if you can get it under control before you hit July and August, that would be ideal. But right now I'm just letting the weeds that are popping up there's. That haven't been very many, but the ones that are popping up. I just keep in the lawn mode and that tends to keep most of them at bay for the most part, except for that clover.
Speaker 1:That Clover's coming in also, you know when one good thing about keeping a good, healthy lawn is, it kind of helps with the weed control too.
Speaker 3:Yes, so if your lawn is nice and healthy, if you're fertilizing, mowing, watering, yeah like you should be, then that also cuts down on the weeds that you're you're going to see yeah, if you're mowing consistently, you know, two to three times a week Then that grass is getting fairly thick because it doesn't have a chance to grow tall, so it's growing sideways, also using a PGR. That will help thicken up the lawn as well and it keeps the weeds at bay. Right, it seems to mm-hmm, and that's typically what I do. I don't have a whole lot of. I've got the front yard under control. For the most part. I don't have a lot of problems out there, and that's because the grass is so thick out there and I keep that watered, whereas this time of year I don't keep the back water because the water for the irrigation system is so expensive here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just experienced that yeah one thing that you can do whenever it's hot, though, and you don't want to spot spray is you can pull the weeds right, but you have to be careful, because some of the weeds you don't want to pull by hand right like nuts, I do not pull my side by hand or you will end up with 10 more nuts.
Speaker 3:I just right well, yeah. I've learned that the hard way to. That's probably why I have such a crop of it down. I've thought about turning that section of my line where it grows so much into a nuts edge display right Maybe, and just tell people that it's supposed to be there right, exactly too bad.
Speaker 1:We don't like the way it looks, right we did well.
Speaker 3:I don't mind it if it was an ornamental or some Grass that I don't know, but it's right in the middle of my lawn, so it's in a bad spot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, even my brandy sod has some patches of nuts edge.
Speaker 3:And normally it'll be in the overwatered areas. So if you're got a section of your lawn that's low lying and that's that's the places I have, it is where the water pulls when I'm watering the lawn. I know that's what's causing it, but it doesn't matter. Once we start getting rain it's gonna pull there too. So I either need to start sanding some more and get get it flat, or I need to Just put some nuts edge on it, but this time of year was nuts edge, I don't Typically. I don't know if nut sedge has a temperature requirement, not of a sedge hammer.
Speaker 3:Let me set hammer?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think it does, and I've noticed with the sedge hammer to the. If you Did it some, I'll get some yellowing with the grass around, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, I also noticed with the sedge hammer. I typically have to do it twice.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:It will knock it down a little bit. The first time, and then you guys spray it again. Yeah, I found that all my nuts edge and that's probably why I still have it. I probably just have it knocked it completely down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like the first first round turns it yellow a little bit, doesn't look as healthy, and then takes one more to To knock it out. So you don't pull the nuts edge. You can pull your crab grass, though, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, if you want to do it, there's tools out there to do it. I think you said you had one. You mentioned that I have one around here somewhere. I haven't used it a long time, but that that's a lot of extra work. But if you only have a few and you feel like doing it absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have the, the. It's called the grandpa weed puller. Perfect, yeah. So basically you put it down in the ground over the weed. It has a little lever that you step on that closes claws around the weed and you can just pull it straight out and that's and I've used it this year on crab grass in my yard and my new sod. I've had crab grass and then that's edge and my new new lawn and do you have pretty good luck with that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, using that.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, it gets down to the root and pulls it the whole thing out. So you and it's a lot easier than bending over and doing it by hand.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, you know my rule if it's below my waist or above my head, I typically don't not gonna work on it. Right so that would be an ideal tool for me then.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I like it a lot. Yeah, we were looking at them. Tractor supply.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my wife is like that. You need that. That's good for you.
Speaker 3:What you really need is somebody to operate it for you too. That's the hard part. Owning it's the easy part. Like I said, I have one around here somewhere. I have not used it in a while and I probably should pull it out. Yeah yeah, this time of year that's probably your best bet is pulling weeds Just because of the temperatures, mm-hmm, if you really having a problem. I mean you can't pull clover, not easily.
Speaker 1:No, you can try too hard. Yeah, too hard to get it all. Yeah, so sometimes I have just let it ride thinking you know I'm gonna put down good pre-emergent. Take care of these weeds later. Just let them ride through the summers. You know, yeah, when it's super hot like this.
Speaker 3:Well, what winter weeds do you typically get this broad leaf like the.
Speaker 1:Rodley, the dandelions, yes.
Speaker 3:That. I think that puller would probably work on those as well.
Speaker 1:It works great on the dandelions and those it also I had. In my old yard I had these Crate myrtles. Oh I had been removed, but they still kept popping up and I could use yeah. Use it on that and pull the, pull it up. But in the wintertime I would see the crate myrtles popping up and then the dandelions.
Speaker 1:Mostly that's typically what I get around here is the dandelions is mostly what I get there may be a couple other weeds, but there are a couple others I get, but I don't even know what they are. But yeah, and that whenever it's dormant, when your grass is dormant, then that you're safer at using the roundup.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean it's good. It doesn't matter what it is, it's gonna kill it.
Speaker 1:then if it's green, it's gonna kill it, right, yeah, and so I've done that too in the winter time.
Speaker 3:I tell you, though, I've used roundup in some areas where I don't want anything growing, and it does not seem to be knocking it out. This year. It knocks it out for a little bit, but then it comes right back. So I have a fire pit area that Bermuda likes to creep into, and I sprayed it, knocked it out twice already this year, and once again it's coming back. I don't know. I don't know if it's the weather or what's causing it to come back, or what it is.
Speaker 1:I have a similar situation where I have that decomposed granite between the sidewalk in the street and that common Bermuda, like I found in the backyard, is growing in that and used round. I used roundup on it and and came back later and it wasn't even like it had popped up in a different place. The same one that had turned yellow was turning green again. Oh well and so I had to spray it again.
Speaker 3:But maybe that's my problem, maybe it's just yellowing and killing off the top and I'm think I hod some of that off of there and so maybe didn't have a chance to get really down to the roots. Yeah, so I need to. I Probably just need to spray it and leave it alone and try that. But I mean, what I want people to take away from this is it's all trial and error, and even I'm seven years into this journey Approximately maybe eight and I'm still experimenting. I mean, I got the majority of it down, but I still experiment, I still have problem areas, I still my lawn looks better some years than it does other years. So this year hasn't been a great year because of the, the drought.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that definitely makes a difference. It absolutely does. All right, do you want to do some Facebook page Shoutouts?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I see the first one we have here is Nicholas Davis found the nutrients in human urine 11 parts nitrogen, one part phosphorus, 2.5 parts potassium. He says free the lorganite, but seriously, has anybody thought about this?
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you, if you ever use your your backyard for a bathroom, maybe, maybe you're helping out the grass, you know well, you know, like I said, I'm on an acre and we have a fire pit back there and I'm not gonna say. But there might be some times where people go around the side of my Barn, my little shed barn out there, and use the bathroom back. Until you, there's nothing growing over there.
Speaker 1:There's a tree, there's one tree, yeah, not a whole lot of grass. Grass Doesn't seem to be working.
Speaker 3:No, it doesn't seem to be working, I don't know. I mean, surely there is some Advantage to it. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I guess is a lorganite made from only solid waste, or is is it?
Speaker 3:It's actually made from the bugs that eat the solid waste.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's not the actual solid waste.
Speaker 3:It's the, it's the organisms that Break that stuff down, and then, when they die, it's their carcasses.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, yeah, so it's not actually.
Speaker 3:yeah, you're actually putting human poo poo on your lawn. It's, but you're putting things that eat that.
Speaker 1:Well, that makes sense. It still smells really bad though. It does so. Chris farmer says I've lost 10 pounds using this and he's showing His manual real mower and the front yard there it's lawns looking really good.
Speaker 3:It is, and that is a great weight loss program.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:Yep, that is a lot of work. Yeah, that was my exercise plan for the other last couple years, right, last couple years, yeah, yeah, did you find it to be a lot of work, or was it?
Speaker 1:was it fairly easy, or it was work, just because you have to get the real spinning fast enough, you know so you don't want to let the lawn go at all or because you know, yeah, you let it get too high, then yours?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's gonna be harder, a bigger.
Speaker 1:If I ever let it get too high. I went back to the rotary for one for one cut, and then, yeah, real after that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I maintained it with the real yeah, that makes sense. Your lawn, chris, is looking awesome, though that's a great photo and I love what you're doing there. It looks really good. So I want to remind everybody, check out the Facebook page for the questions that you may have, especially if you're trying to identify a weed. People on there Pretty much encountered most every weed you're gonna find. Yes, for the most part, I mean I think it'd be a challenge to stump the entire group and we're up to 39,000 people by the way that group, so that's surely out of 39,000 people.
Speaker 3:Somebody's seen it before and has killed it right with something They've killed it with something, whether it they may have gone to the extreme and just use roundup. I mean, I've gotten frustrated with weeds that just won't go away and done that too. I'm very, very specific Drop a little few drops in the center of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think they call it painting, paint on. Yeah, some roundup on that absolutely.
Speaker 3:Most people are born willing to help, though, if you post a photo of it, if you can't figure out in your iPhone or and I'm sure there's Android apps out there that'll identify weeds as well but if you can't identify it, get on there and look. You may even find that somebody else is already taking a picture of the same thing and, generally, if you're having a problem with the weed in that particular time of year, other people are too, and they seem and they go in seasons right.
Speaker 3:So, some years you might have a big problem with nuts edge we're. Another year you might have a bigger problem with Danny lines or something else, or spurred. Spurred was one that we had a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think low and eventually went away today we covered Weed control, so there's two different types. There's pre-emergent and post-emergent. Pre-emergent is trying to prevent the weeds from popping up.
Speaker 3:Yep, so it number before they happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, get to them before they get to you.
Speaker 3:Yes, so we do that four times a year only once a quarter and pay attention to your Application limits right for your area and maybe even switch out between two or do half Applications if you need to.
Speaker 1:Then we have the post emergent and that's for the weeds that you didn't catch with your pre-emergent. That may be coming up after you know. After you've done your pre-emergent application, your yard's looking good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, one of the things that we mentioned was we generally just keep two or three herbicides on hand right for for where I'm at, for where we're at, it's the nuts edge. Anything covers nuts edge to 4d for the broad leaf weeds and Something for crabgrass. Something for crabgrass yeah, it always keep a little glyphosate around.
Speaker 1:Yes, exactly, which is the roundup.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, roundup has it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's really that simple.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're just a couple of guys trying to figure it out as we go. We haven't got it all figured out, though there's no golf courses looking to hire either of us right now, exactly so but it's just fun and it's a hobby. As long as it's a hobby and it's fun and we're figuring out, and it's like any other hobby, you go in seasons where you have fun with it and you don't. This year I just hadn't had as much time as I have in the past. So it's not, it's a hobby that can go on the back burner at times if you have to, if you just cover the basics the Moe water, fertilizing feed if you just doing that, you can maintain a yard through a season. If you decide it's.
Speaker 1:You just don't have enough time if you get that down, you're gonna have one of the best lawns in the neighborhood probably, mommy, most people. You know that consistent with those four things. No, it's not simple.
Speaker 3:I had a friend today asked me at work if I would be willing to come over and do a consultation, and so I asked her. So well, let me ask you. It's four tenants Moe, water, fertilizing feed, and we've talked about it before. So I asked her Do you have your mowing under control? She goes, will we mow when we can? Okay, well, all I'm gonna do is come over and look at your lawn. Until you mow water fertilizing feed, there's no reason for me to come over. I'm telling you, just do those four things. You'll start getting under control. But until you get those things under Control and you start having some, some discipline with that, Then your lawn is not gonna look good. But once you get those under control, start having some discipline with it, it's gonna. You're gonna start seeing a difference. Then. That's when you get into the nuances of lawn. Right, exactly, all right, everybody, join us next week. We're gonna talk about taking the lawn to the next level. We're gonna talk about sanding, aerating and lawnmowers.
Speaker 1:That sounds great.
Speaker 3:It'll be a good good, good topic of conversation. Thank you guys for joining in this week and have a good week.
Speaker 4:Thanks for joining us on this episode of the BLD podcast. We hope you enjoyed our lawn care discussions and the lawn beer of the week. Remember, as we sip and tend to our lawns, let's get greener together. Keep mowing, keep sipping and keep dominating those lawns. Until next time, stay green and cheers.
